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Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2011.11.04 02:14:00 -
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CCP t0rfifrans wrote:It actually changes between constellations, not systems, right now. But like stated in the blog, many constellations share the same nebula.
The concern for our choice of granularity has been noted, we won't make drastic changes to the system or the assets before the winter release, but this is obviously something many are concerned with and we'll examine what we can do.
However, I encourage you to check it out on Singularity ( or TQ once it ships ) before making final judgements! Instead of a separate download, high-res backgrounds should be possible to download on-demand. Turning on an option of some sort could make the client download skyboxes of much higher resolution for the region you are in.
This could also be extended to provide more granularity, e.g. if you're flying around in The Forge it will download per-constellation backgrounds in that area. And if making backgrounds for _ALL_ constellation takes too much time, at least make them for the most popular regions of space.
E.g. 4 extra images for the Jita and the different directions would impact quite a lot of people. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2011.11.04 03:12:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:Making it on-demand would increase server stress, and the servers already deal with a lot to begin with. I would definitely prefer a separate and optional patch for more cube maps. No it wouldn't.
No more than you browsing a **** site while playing would stress the EVE servers. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2011.11.04 08:13:00 -
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Oberine Noriepa wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Oberine Noriepa wrote:Making it on-demand would increase server stress, and the servers already deal with a lot to begin with. I would definitely prefer a separate and optional patch for more cube maps. No it wouldn't. No more than you browsing a **** site while playing would stress the EVE servers. Except with an on-demand system, it would be distributing data for thousands of users at a time, and that bandwidth could be used for better things that are more relevant to gameplay. Assets for online games are usually pre-loaded before any sort of live interaction between the player and environment occurs. This is done to ensure a smoother playing experience. Imagine jumping into a system containing 1000 players who all jump into the system around the same time. Before ever having to deal with player input, the server would have to distribute cube maps to every player's client first. Each cube map is 3 MB in size. With a system containing 1000 players, the server would have to distribute nearly 3 GB worth of data, which just isn't practical when the server could be used for more important things. It's more efficient to have assets on the user's side than on the server's side. No it doesn't.
Distributing static data is a _SOLVED PROBLEM_, no one ever has trouble distributing static data these days. Where the **** do you think you download the client from, or the avatar images? Does that lag your fleet fights?
And on-demand downloads do not need to finish before you jump into a new constellation, as the generic regional background can be used until the download finishes and then next time you enter one of the systems it loads the new one.
There's no technical reasons why they can't implement my suggestion. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2011.11.04 11:38:00 -
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Ariane VoxDei wrote:Rakshasa Taisab wrote:Distributing static data is a _SOLVED PROBLEM_, no one ever has trouble distributing static data these days. Where the **** do you think you download the client from, or the avatar images? Does that lag your fleet fights? Head out of ass plx, downloading the client and loading forum avatars is not a realtime and latency/lag sensitive activity. Loading something the client demands to proceed is. +differences in size. skybox textures >>> thumbs used in local. Client does not demand constellation/system background to proceed when it has fallbacks.
So, now what? The objections you guys give are founded in ignorance. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2011.11.15 08:17:00 -
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Gevlin wrote:I originally though that Nebula upgrade was going to be a waist of time and resources, adding nothing to the game When they first announced it at FanFest, it was instantly obvious to anyone with half a working brain that it would be awesome... 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |
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